Rabbi Chutzpis HameTurgeman

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|title = R' Chutzpit HameTurgeman
 
|title = R' Chutzpit HameTurgeman
|image        = [[File:00000857 tziyon chutzpit hameturgeman.jpg|215px|alt=Rabbi Chutzpis HameTurgeman]]
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|image        = [[File:00000852 gabbi kever rabbi chutzpis hameturgeman.jpg|215px|alt=Rabbi Chutzpis HameTurgeman]]
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|data2  = {{Project Kivrei Tzadikim}}
 
|header3 = Hebrew:
 
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|data4  = רבי חוצפית המתורגמן
 
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==Tana==
 
==Tana==
Rabbi Chutzpis HameTurgeman was a third generation Tana and friends with [[Rabbi Yehoshua ben Chananya|Rabbi Yehoshua]] and Rabbi Eliezer. So great was Rabbi Chutzpis, that he was compared to [[Yonasan Ben Uziel]]. He was able to give over 170 approaches to 'Torat Kohanim'
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Rabbi Chutzpis HameTurgeman was a third generation Tana and friends with [[Rabbi Yehoshua ben Chananya|Rabbi Yehoshua]] and Rabbi Eliezer. So great was Rabbi Chutzpis, that he was compared to [[Yonasan Ben Uziel]].
  
 
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==Kever Rabbi Chutzpit HameTurgeman==
 
==Kever Rabbi Chutzpit HameTurgeman==
Rabbi Chutzpis HameTurgeman is buried underneath [[Safed|Tzfat]], in the woods towards the right side under the [[Ancient Tzfat Cemetery|ancient cemetery]], just above Nachal Sechvi on its way towards [[Wadi Amud Safed|Nachal Amud]]. Kever Chutzpit HameTurgeman is first mentioned by Rabbi Chaim Vital who describes its relative location and then notes that it is positioned in a single stone quarry, where rocks were carved out for building. Later travel dairies of other earlier visitors also describe the location, some stating that he is buried on the bottom of an ancient well.
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Rabbi Chutzpis HameTurgeman is buried underneath [[Safed|Tzfat]], in the woods towards the right side under the [[Ancient Tzfat Cemetery|ancient cemetery]], just above Nachal Sechvi on its way towards [[Wadi Amud Safed|Nachal Amud]]. Kever Chutzpit HameTurgeman is first mentioned by Rabbi Chaim Vital who describes its relative location and then notes that it is positioned in a single stone quarry, where rocks were carved out for building. Later travel dairies of other earlier visitors also describe the location, some stating that he is buried on the bottom of the ancient well found in that area.
 
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Also buried near Rebbe Chutzpit is [[Yehoyada Hakohen]] and in relative proximity, [[Rabbi Natan HaBavli]] and Gabbai's version of kever [[Adino Haetzni]].
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===Kadmonenue's Tzion===
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In that area is a deep hole that was carved out of the rock, this location has been passed down from generation to generation by the elders of Tzfat as the Kever of Rabbi Chutzpit HameTurgeman. So deep is this hole that the elders remember a few second pause when a pebble was thrown inside until it hit the floor. At some point the hole was sealed for safety reasons. Vaad LiHatzolas Kivrei HaKadmonim later came and built a Tzion directly above this hole. This hole fits perfectly the single stone quarry (as opposed to the general quarry by Adino Haetzni) described by Rabbi Chaim Vital and the 'well' described by the other diaries.
 
In that area is a deep hole that was carved out of the rock, this location has been passed down from generation to generation by the elders of Tzfat as the Kever of Rabbi Chutzpit HameTurgeman. So deep is this hole that the elders remember a few second pause when a pebble was thrown inside until it hit the floor. At some point the hole was sealed for safety reasons. Vaad LiHatzolas Kivrei HaKadmonim later came and built a Tzion directly above this hole. This hole fits perfectly the single stone quarry (as opposed to the general quarry by Adino Haetzni) described by Rabbi Chaim Vital and the 'well' described by the other diaries.
  
===Gabbai's Tzion===
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Although everyone agrees on the approximate location, there are two version of the Tzion, both within a few dozen meters of each other. Originally a Tzion and a surrounding building were built by the  in what they estimated to be the general area. Later Yisroel Meir Gabbai and his organization Ohali Tzadikim came and built a second Tzion, right near the ancient well in, summit he estimates was origional a stone quarry, thereby combining the testimonials of Rabbi Chaim Vital with the other early visitors.
  
Later Yisroel Meir Gabbai and his organization Ohali Tzadikim came and only saw the structure built by Kadmonanue. Not knowing about the deep hole underneath, they assumed it was just built in the estimated area. A few dozen meters away from the original Tzion is a large well, neighboring what might be called an old stone quarry. Gabbai assumed this was the correct location and built a second Tzion in the summit he estimates was originally a stone quarry, thereby trying to combine the testimonials of Rabbi Chaim Vital with the other early visitors.
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Also buried near Rebbe Chutzpit is [[Yehoyada Hakohen]] and in relative proximity, [[Rabbi Natan HaBavli]] and Gabbai's version of kever [[Adino Haetzni]].
 
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Yisroel Meir Cheshin wrote a paper completely disproving Gabbai's Tzion. For one, the entire thesis of Gabbi does not even begin once it is recognized that there is a deep hole under Kadmonanues Tzion. A pit that much better fits the description of the 'Masaos'. Being that it is etched in stone rather then built from bricks like the 2nd well, it allows for a perfect combination of Rabbi Chaim Vital's testimony with that of the other travelers. Unlike Gabbi who has to say most of the travelers were mistaken about the Kever being in the actual well and is really nearby, in what is even debatable if it was ever a 'stone query'. Additionally Gabbi ignores a very strong tradition that was handed down mouth to mouth by the elders of Tzfat who would in the very least visit the Kever each year on Tisha Bav. There are even eye witnesses who personally saw Shmuel Horowitz doing Histatchus at the Kadmonenue location, while Gabbi brings his writings down as one of his proofs.
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===9th of Av===
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It is an old Tzfat tradition to visit the tomb of Rabbi Chutzpis HameTurgeman on Tisha B'av and recite the Kina of 'Eleh Ezkira' that mourns the death of the Asara Harugi Malchus.
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==More Photos==
 
==More Photos==
 
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