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Eschudy: /* Kever Shmaya and Avtalyon */

2015-05-03T14:31:04Z

Kever Shmaya and Avtalyon

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	[[File:00000189 safsufa mayan.jpg\|thumb\|180px\|right\|Mayan Safsufa.]]Avtalyon and Shmaya are buried in the Arab populated town of Gush Chalav in Northern Israel. They are buried in the vicinity of Adarmelech and Shartzer sons of Sancherev who were blood relatives of Avtalyon and Shmaya and were reincarnated in them as well.		[[File:00000189 safsufa mayan.jpg\|thumb\|180px\|right\|Mayan Safsufa.]]Avtalyon and Shmaya are buried in the Arab populated town of Gush Chalav in Northern Israel. They are buried in the vicinity of Adarmelech and Shartzer sons of Sancherev who were blood relatives of Avtalyon and Shmaya and were reincarnated in them as well.

−	The [[Rabbi Yitzchak Luria\|Arizal]] used to pray at Kever Shmaya and Avtalyon with his students. Once he told his students that Shmaya and Avtalyon ~~besieged~~ them to pray for the life of Moshiach ben Yosef. Foolishly they did not realize that this was a reference to the Arizal himself and he passed away shortly afterwards.	+	The [[Rabbi Yitzchak Luria\|Arizal]] used to pray at Kever Shmaya and Avtalyon with his students. Once he told his students that Shmaya and Avtalyon beseeched them to pray for the life of Moshiach ben Yosef. Foolishly they did not realize that this was a reference to the Arizal himself and he passed away shortly afterwards.

	===Mikva of Shmaya and Avtalyon ===		===Mikva of Shmaya and Avtalyon ===

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2013-11-20T15:54:05Z

Descendent of Sancherev

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	===Descendent of Sancherev ===		===Descendent of Sancherev ===
−	[[File:00000181 shmaya and avtalyon sign.jpg\|thumb\|165px\|right\|Sign for Kever Shmaya vAvtalyon.]]Avtalyon was a direct descendent of Sancherev, the Assyrian ruler ~~who's~~ army was wiped out by angels during his attempt to capture Jerusalem. Due to his hereditary background Avtalyon was unable to pronounce the letter 'Heh' and would mispronounce words that contained it, using the letter 'Alef' in its place.	+	[[File:00000181 shmaya and avtalyon sign.jpg\|thumb\|165px\|right\|Sign for Kever Shmaya vAvtalyon.]]Avtalyon was a direct descendent of Sancherev, the Assyrian ruler whose army was wiped out by angels during his attempt to capture Jerusalem. Due to his hereditary background Avtalyon was unable to pronounce the letter 'Heh' and would mispronounce words that contained it, using the letter 'Alef' in its place.

	===Kabbalistic Reincarnations ===		===Kabbalistic Reincarnations ===

Dun at 15:58, 19 November 2013

2013-11-19T15:58:27Z

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	Based on the testimony of two weavers from the Dung Gate of Yerushalaim, in the name of Shimaya and Avtalyon, the well known Halacha disqualifying an unfinished mikva when three Lugin of containerized water are poured inside was established.		Based on the testimony of two weavers from the Dung Gate of Yerushalaim, in the name of Shimaya and Avtalyon, the well known Halacha disqualifying an unfinished mikva when three Lugin of containerized water are poured inside was established.

−	During the era of Shmaya and Avtalyon, Halachic controversy was basically nonexistent ~~amongest~~ the Jewish nation. An exception was the argument regarding the performance of Semicha on the Kurbanos during holidays, which had arisen three generations back. Avtalyon's opinion on the matter was not to do Semicha.	+	During the era of Shmaya and Avtalyon, Halachic controversy was basically nonexistent amongst the Jewish nation. An exception was the argument regarding the performance of Semicha on the Kurbanos during holidays, which had arisen three generations back. Avtalyon's opinion on the matter was not to do Semicha.

	==Kever Shmaya and Avtalyon ==		==Kever Shmaya and Avtalyon ==

Dun: /* Teachings */

2013-11-18T21:26:43Z

Teachings

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	[[File:00000178 kever shimaya vavtalyon.jpg\|thumb\|153px\|left\|Inside the Tzion.]]Avtalyon is rarely mentioned in the Mishnah. In Avos he warns the Sages to be careful with their words, to avoid having them misinterpreted by their students. This is true even if the teacher is certain his students have a proper understanding. Since one day he might be forced into exile and his students will become exposed to foreign philosophies which might corrupt the teachings and bring about their death and the death of their followers as a result. This can possibly be a reference to an incident that Avtalyon and his teacher Yehuda ben Tabai experienced while living in Alexandria, where many Jews lived under Hellenistic Greek influence. It can also be a reference to the corruption of [[Antigonus Ish Socho\|Antigonus Ish Socho's]] teachings by Tzadok and Baysus.		[[File:00000178 kever shimaya vavtalyon.jpg\|thumb\|153px\|left\|Inside the Tzion.]]Avtalyon is rarely mentioned in the Mishnah. In Avos he warns the Sages to be careful with their words, to avoid having them misinterpreted by their students. This is true even if the teacher is certain his students have a proper understanding. Since one day he might be forced into exile and his students will become exposed to foreign philosophies which might corrupt the teachings and bring about their death and the death of their followers as a result. This can possibly be a reference to an incident that Avtalyon and his teacher Yehuda ben Tabai experienced while living in Alexandria, where many Jews lived under Hellenistic Greek influence. It can also be a reference to the corruption of [[Antigonus Ish Socho\|Antigonus Ish Socho's]] teachings by Tzadok and Baysus.

−	In the Mechilta of Rebbe Yishmael, Avtalyon is quoted regarding the splitting of the Yam Suf.	+	In the Mechilta of Rebbe Yishmael, Avtalyon is quoted regarding the splitting of the Yam Suf.
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		+	Based on the testimony of two weavers from the Dung Gate of Yerushalaim, in the name of Shimaya and Avtalyon, the well known Halacha disqualifying an unfinished mikva when three Lugin of containerized water are poured inside was established.

	During the era of Shmaya and Avtalyon, Halachic controversy was basically nonexistent amongest the Jewish nation. An exception was the argument regarding the performance of Semicha on the Kurbanos during holidays, which had arisen three generations back. Avtalyon's opinion on the matter was not to do Semicha.		During the era of Shmaya and Avtalyon, Halachic controversy was basically nonexistent amongest the Jewish nation. An exception was the argument regarding the performance of Semicha on the Kurbanos during holidays, which had arisen three generations back. Avtalyon's opinion on the matter was not to do Semicha.

Dun: /* Students, Colleagues and Successors */

2013-11-18T21:14:27Z

Students, Colleagues and Successors

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	===Students, Colleagues and Successors ===		===Students, Colleagues and Successors ===
−	Avtalyon's main students were [[Hillel the Elder\|Hillel]] and Shami. Leadership of Shmaya and Avtalyon lasted for a short period of six years. After Shmaya and Avtalyon passed away, the Jewish leadership was given to the Beni Besera who eventually passed it on to Hillel and Menachem. Eventually Menachem was replaced by Shami. Hillel openly declared that his superiority in Torah knowledge over the sages of his generation was due to his nullification to Shmaya and Avtalyon.	+	Avtalyon's main students were [[Hillel the Elder\|Hillel]] and Shami. Hillel was known to be very particular in using the exact wording of his teachers when he quoted them. Leadership of Shmaya and Avtalyon lasted for a short period of six years. After Shmaya and Avtalyon passed away, the Jewish leadership was given to the Beni Besera who eventually passed it on to Hillel and Menachem. Eventually Menachem was replaced by Shami. Hillel openly declared that his superiority in Torah knowledge over the sages of his generation was due to his nullification to Shmaya and Avtalyon.

	Other Tannaim that lived during the time of Avtalyon were; Akavya ben Mehallel, Admon, Channan, the Sons of Besera and Rebbe Yehuda ben Dursai.		Other Tannaim that lived during the time of Avtalyon were; Akavya ben Mehallel, Admon, Channan, the Sons of Besera and Rebbe Yehuda ben Dursai.

Dun: /* Mikva of Shmaya and Avtalyon */

2013-11-18T21:09:13Z

Mikva of Shmaya and Avtalyon

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	===Mikva of Shmaya and Avtalyon ===		===Mikva of Shmaya and Avtalyon ===
−	~~In the moshav of~~ Safsufa, around 4 km north of Meron, exists a natural spring water Mikva that is attributed to Shmaya and Avtalyon. According to this tradition Avtalyon used to immerse in the Mikva at some stage during his lifetime.	+	Across from Moshav Safsufa, around 4 km north of Meron, exists a natural spring water Mikva that is attributed to Shmaya and Avtalyon. According to this tradition Avtalyon used to immerse in the Mikva at some stage during his lifetime.

	==More Pictures==		==More Pictures==

Dun: /* Teachings */

2013-11-18T21:08:37Z

Teachings

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	In the Mechilta of Rebbe Yishmael, Avtalyon is quoted regarding the splitting of the Yam Suf.		In the Mechilta of Rebbe Yishmael, Avtalyon is quoted regarding the splitting of the Yam Suf.

−	During the era of Shmaya and Avtalyon, Halachic controversy was basically nonexistent ~~amongst~~ the Jewish nation. An exception was the argument ~~over doing~~ Semicha on the Kurbanos during ~~the~~ holidays, which had arisen three generations back. Avtalyon's opinion on the matter was not to do Semicha.	+	During the era of Shmaya and Avtalyon, Halachic controversy was basically nonexistent amongest the Jewish nation. An exception was the argument regarding the performance of Semicha on the Kurbanos during holidays, which had arisen three generations back. Avtalyon's opinion on the matter was not to do Semicha.

	==Kever Shmaya and Avtalyon ==		==Kever Shmaya and Avtalyon ==

Dun: /* Teachings */

2013-11-18T21:07:15Z

Teachings

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	==Teachings ==		==Teachings ==
−	[[File:00000178 kever shimaya vavtalyon.jpg\|thumb\|153px\|left\|Inside the Tzion.]]Avtalyon is rarely mentioned in the Mishnah. In Avos he warns the Sages to be careful with their words, to avoid having them misinterpreted by their students. This is true even if the teacher is certain his students have a proper understanding. Since one day he might be forced into exile and his students will become exposed to foreign philosophies which might corrupt the teachings and bring about their death and the death of their followers as a result. This can possibly be a reference to an incident that Avtalyon and his teacher Yehuda ben Tabai experienced while living in Alexandria, where many Jews lived under Hellenistic Greek influence. It can also be a reference to the corruption of Antigonus Ish Socho's teachings by Tzadok and Baysus.	+	[[File:00000178 kever shimaya vavtalyon.jpg\|thumb\|153px\|left\|Inside the Tzion.]]Avtalyon is rarely mentioned in the Mishnah. In Avos he warns the Sages to be careful with their words, to avoid having them misinterpreted by their students. This is true even if the teacher is certain his students have a proper understanding. Since one day he might be forced into exile and his students will become exposed to foreign philosophies which might corrupt the teachings and bring about their death and the death of their followers as a result. This can possibly be a reference to an incident that Avtalyon and his teacher Yehuda ben Tabai experienced while living in Alexandria, where many Jews lived under Hellenistic Greek influence. It can also be a reference to the corruption of [[Antigonus Ish Socho\|Antigonus Ish Socho's]] teachings by Tzadok and Baysus.

	In the Mechilta of Rebbe Yishmael, Avtalyon is quoted regarding the splitting of the Yam Suf.		In the Mechilta of Rebbe Yishmael, Avtalyon is quoted regarding the splitting of the Yam Suf.

Dun at 04:09, 24 September 2013

2013-09-24T04:09:21Z

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	\|title = Avtalyon		\|title = Avtalyon
	\|image = [[File:00000179 shmaya and avtalyon gush chalav.jpg\|215px\|alt=Shemaya HaNasi]]		\|image = [[File:00000179 shmaya and avtalyon gush chalav.jpg\|215px\|alt=Shemaya HaNasi]]
−	~~\|header1 = Part of Zissil Projects:~~
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	\|data4 = אבטליון		\|data4 = אבטליון

Dun: /* More Pictures */

2013-08-29T20:52:07Z

More Pictures

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	<gallery widths=180px heights=120px perrow=4 caption="Shemaya & Avtalyon Gallery">		<gallery widths=180px heights=120px perrow=4 caption="Shemaya & Avtalyon Gallery">
		+	File:00001079 tomb of shimayah and avtalyon.jpg
	File:00000180 sign leading to kever shmaya and avtalyon.jpg		File:00000180 sign leading to kever shmaya and avtalyon.jpg
	File:00000183 inside safsufa mikvah.jpg		File:00000183 inside safsufa mikvah.jpg